You know for once I was in totally agreement until you started your this is all Democrats rant. Check out who the companies who are getting the mostly no bid business worth hundreds of millions of dollars - Halliburton is on top of the list. You talking little people with the supplies in a warehouse I am talking about the big boys. Don't forget I lived and worked in New Orleans in the 60s, right after Betsy hit. The bent nose boys were very much into everything then and I am sure nothing has changed.

The bent nose boys

Dare I ask you to clarify that one?

You're not going to start ranting about the eeeeeeevils of ZOG now, are you?

Since I dont know what ZOG is, I certainly can't rant about it. The "bent nose boys" refers to organized crime.

See, the problem is, when you need things done right, you have to use a no-bid contract, because lots of corporations will underbid to get the contract, and then cut corners and do half-assed jobs to maximize their profit.

Haliburton is well known for getting things done right, and getting them done inexpensively but not cheaply. It was being given no-bid contracts for critical public projects for just this reason, long before Dick Cheney became Vice President.

If they were being awarded contracts for, say, changing lightbulbs, that would be improper. But the New Orleans infrastructure needs to be rebuilt quickly, preferably better than it was before, and Haliburton is by far the most qualified contractor to do it.

Please check the history of Haliburton in Iraq and do check where VP Cheney was working before he became VP

A google search for connections between VP Cheney and Halibuton has page after page of not very flattering information. Not just the so called "liberal press" that Scott rants and raves about all the time. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton until he resigned after being elected VP in 2000.

Pat, while there is definitely a connection between Halliburton and Cheney, does that change the fact that they are imminently qualified to do the job? Or that they have the best chance of doing the job quickly and correctly?

Ron I was not just talking about the connections! Look up their records. They don't have exactly a sterling history. HOw do you spell the name? Where are you finding information that they are so immeninently qualified to this job. I was just checking out a few of the google sites.

Pat - if someone can come up with other viable options, sure, I'd be more than happy to let them have at it. Competition is a good thing.

As for their qualifications, I simply don't know of another company that could. I've heard of what they're doing in Iraq and they seem to be able to get the job done, so there you go.

Remember, anyone can post anything on the internet. Any article claiming that Arthur Andersen is Haliburton's accounting firm, such as almost all the articles on Google and this article on Wikipedia, are immediarely suspect. Halliburton fired them in 2002, immediately after their questionable auditing practices came to light.

Keep in mind that anyone can post anything on the Internet. Especially on Wikipedia.

There are 33 other corporations that do the kind of work Haliburton does. Their closest competitor is Bechtel, and they simply don't have the manpower to do what Haliburton can. Bechtel still gets their share of important but not critical contracts, which of course is enough to make "progressives" declare war on them as well.

The Dems simply don't want ANY corporation with the ability to rebuild devastated areas to be allowed to do so, and the whole purpose is to tie the hands of the Bush administration so the Dems can claim they didn't do enough.

I give up! There are none so blind as those who will not see. I was just waiting for you to get around to lay the blame on the Democrats. I want someone, somewhere to follow the money. If you throw $200 billion dollars into La................No more comments from me, I should know better by now.

"The Dems simply don't want ANY corporation with the ability to rebuild devastated areas to be allowed to do so, and the whole purpose is to tie the hands of the Bush administration so the Dems can claim they didn't do enough."

Wow that has got to be one of the biggest mouthfuls of BS I have seen recently.

Seems the tinfoil is on the other foot..err, head.

I've already said, lots of times before, that following the money will lead you to the wrong conclusion as often as not.

Were the corporations that made those cute little American flags behind 9-11, just because they profited the most from it?

There are such things as conspiracies, Joshua. Chasing false ones will only get you blindsided by the real ones.

Make sure you stay in fashion there Paco. This should help Stylish TFH.

Have a nice day.

Throw all the insults you like, but if you had followed my links, you'd have seen Democrats themselves bragging that this is their very plan for making strides in the 2006 election... a no-win situation for Bush that they are quite proud of.

What's a few hundred lives if it lowers Bush's approval rating, anyway?

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"Remember, anyone can post anything on the internet."

Why don't you go back and read what you linked. Selective reading must have made you miss the "connected with the current administration" part. Oh well, I forgive you.

Regardless, that was a posting done not by the DNC, but by some bloggers. Silly me, I didn't think that the opinion of a few reflect the ideas of everyone who happens to be in a similar party. Does Rush Limbaugh speak for you?

Oh a little tip, make sure the shiny side is on the outside of your hat so ithe tinfoil won't cook your head.

hmmm - for once, I'm actually going to be sane and sit back and watch. Why? because I'm just not familiar enough with the subject matter and I'd much rather do research on why the Cowboys are going to beat the 'Niners.

RON FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!!!!

True enough, it doesn't carry the weight of the DNC, and is mostly the attitude of a single far-left blogger. Keep in mind, however, that this blogger was hired by the DNC as one of their campaign managers in the 2004 election, so either there are quite a few people in the DNC that share his views, or he's one hell of a con man to get them to hire him on.

Ron.. probably the same way they beat the Redskins?

It is tough. It really is. I want to bust out laughing but my concern is that you are wearing that hat with the dull side outside and it is absorbing too much of the heat thus starting to scramble the insides. Seriously turn it around.

All you needed to do was to put the word "some" before you typed..."Democrats themselves bragging..." and I would have left you alone. Well aside from still pointing out your quote and how it is working for and against you.

But now you are trying to draw connections based on history regardless of any potential actuality of the present. Hmm, seems this is the same thing some repubs call some dems on when they mention haliburton and Cheney. Oops.

Joshua - if you want, I can give you a detailed breakdown of the game and what happened. However, the general consensus is that the better team lost, in this instance. It happens. I'm still steamed about it. But, every now and then, folks get lucky. Sometimes even twice.

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side note: the filter won't let me post with the word ana7ysis in there as it has ana7 in it. Amusing.

1912 total deaths amount the American military since March 2003.

Okay, so now you're seizing on semantic issues. My mistake, I would have thought the word "some" would have been assumed where "all" was not used.

But as for the validity of historical connections, yes, that is exactly the issue I have been bringing up repeatedly. Just like Kos has a history of being supported by the DNC, so too does Haliburton have a history of receiving no-bid contracts from administrations before the current one. I see no reason to believe the DNC's stance on Kos has changed, just as I see no reason to believe Haliburton is being given preferential treatment by the Bush Administration when it is receiving the same treatment that prior administrations (even Democratic ones!) gave it.

Is this what makes me a foil hat wearer, in your opinion? I suppose historians all over the world had better be fitted with them, then.

Break it down all you want Ron...But that is a W in the Redskins column and a L for the Cowboys.

Well, I wasn't going to get into a debate on semantics but on debating. You said "The Dems". In doing that you made a declarative statement grouping all democrats together. Had you said "Dems" you might have a case to support the assumption that "some" was implied. But you didn't.

I think you missed my point on Haliburton was the Cheney link arguement. An organization tied to a man just like Kos and DNC. Maybe my example worked maybe not. But, I'm big enough to admit an error..in public no less. Top that ;)

What made you the foil hat wearer was your implication that the entire Democratic party wants to stop ALL rebuilding in N.O. to place then in a better position for the coming elections.

But I have had fun with this but the day is done and so am I. See ya next thread.

Update: numbers of fatalities American Service members in Iraq since 2003 - 1914

Number of American troop fatalities since March 2003 is now 1918.

Are you counting toward some magic number where Iraq will suddenly become Vietnam? Still 56,308 to go.

You do know that bin Laden's only hope is that we give up and bail out of Iraq, right? You really want to give him that victory?

I just want the numbers to be shown. I watched the flag drapped caskets coming off transport planes during Vietnam, we don't see any of this with the Iraq deaths.

And I don't want to see the soldiers who don't come back in flag-drapped caskets get spat on and accused of war crimes their enemies actually committed. I watched that happen to the troops who came off the transport planes during Vietnam - due, in no small part, to the man the Dems ran for President in 2004 - and I and the rest of us "chickenhawks" are doing what we can to keep that from happening again.